Thanks Nicolas,
Yes I knew you had the right hand rule up there, all boiled down it is very similar if not the same as the port starboard rule.
I think it is healthy that this matter is discussed in the sporting forum to which it relates so the RULE makers are fairly informed as to the user’s opinions.
Decisions behind closed doors sometimes allows for peoples own personal agendas to overrule the practical nature and topography of the venue to which they are determining rules upon.
As I have said at this discussions’ inception (4 years ago?), each venue has rules which govern its operation and sometimes port/starboard and ‘give way to the right’ has limited application.
I think we have all heard the call from down under, “keep it simple”.
I will go one step further and say “Let the Venue Operators determine the Rules best suited to it, after considering all factors governing such operation”
Don
From: Nicolas Boel [mailto:(Address removed)]
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:13 AM
To: (Address removed); (Address removed)
Subject: Re: [blokart] Racing Rules
Hi Guys downunder,
I've been following your discussions on the rules of the road closely and I have af ew points to add...
firstly I think we should have a set of rules which are the same all over the world (port - starboard and right has right of way). This will avoid miss understandings and hopefully crashes.
In New Zealand (THE sailing nations) most of the Blokart pilots are also sailors, so for them port - starboard is not new. In Europe probably 80% or more of blokart pilots are none sailors! Sometimes it's even difficult to know your right from your left, so imagine how difficult it would be for those pilots to know the difference between starboard and port...
Why try to re-invent the wheel. Land -yacht have always used the right hand rule. The blokart manual speaks of the right hand rule. It's easy to understand for everyone...
Yes Russel, we have some work to do and I will contact you soon (direct, not though Jiglu). We (European Blokart Federationhave drafted a whole set of rules. From start to finish of a race and made some nice drawings of most possible situations you can encouter on a beach (which is more that on a track :-)...)
Regards,
Nico
B-1 aliasMr Ditch
2009/2/11 Dave Griffin <(Address removed)>
Hi Guys
I would like to open a discussion about the appropriateness of our right of way rules etc in the context of last weekends racing, particularly where we ran races with Blokarts head-on at high speeds on the apron area.
Many of you are former sailors who have learned the right of way rules at a much slower pace – and have these ingrained like most of us know the road rules. For those without that background, these are new rules and concepts. We discussed and explained some of these at the briefings.
I went through a tack upwind and found 2 karts side by side coming straight at me, about 60-80 Meters away. With my speed of about 25kph and theirs of 40+ that is a closing speed of about 25 m/second. Not a lot of time to recall the rules, I turned right to avoid as the lead kart turned left – bugger! I completed a 360 and narrowly avoided a collision – both the other kart and I narrowly avoided further collisions with other karts. Assuming guilt, I apologised, the other driver was very good about it, thought he had right of way, he asked Don… I think the answer was I had right of way and should have carried on (straight at 2 karts who would both avoid me… I hope)
The pace we race it is dangerous to run head on at each other. At BK Heaven it is simpler; there are only a few paths one can take. But on large open spaces like last weekend, there will be an accident, if someone is injured or worse, the right of way rules will be of little comfort.
We need to avoid this situation and keep the give way rules simple.
Regards
Dave Griffin
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